| MYoung23 |
hey I
just got home |
| Paul Clayton |
hey
MYoung |
| ssn774 |
how was
the Gund? |
| MYoung23 |
pretty
subdued |
| Korrupt |
Reactions? |
| Sarcastic1 |
did the
fans cheer the pick? |
| SpexZZ |
what's
the Luke hype? |
| MYoung23 |
not a
whole lot of buzz |
| MYoung23 |
people
at the Gund wanted Nelson |
| CBBI |
Nelson? |
| SpexZZ |
o well,
Luke will be competing for ROY |
| Sarcastic1 |
nelson
with the 10, or nelson in a trade? |
| ssn774 |
were
there boos? |
| MYoung23 |
no |
| MYoung23 |
not a
lot of reaction |
| SpexZZ |
well ,
he's not LeBron |
| WatchdogXC |
I would
have liked to have trade for Nelson later on |
| MYoung23 |
most
wanted Nelson, some Snyder, some Jackson |
| WatchdogXC |
Jackson
is a safe pick in my mind |
| SpexZZ |
we all
wanted more, but like Luke |
| WatchdogXC |
he will
hit open shots |
| Korrupt |
Yeah,
the Cavs needed to deal with Denver and get Nelson... |
| MYoung23 |
The ESPN
coverage was beyond terrible |
| WatchdogXC |
you
didn't like hearing from Vitale, |
| CBBI |
Vitale
was insane tonight |
| WatchdogXC |
I hope
we don't have a 1st rounder next year |
| MYoung23 |
Why was
Tolbert and Smith there? |
| CBBI |
he
wouldn't stop bitching |
| Paul Clayton |
Tolbert
is an ass |
| Korrupt |
five
picks left...guys like Rice and Stepp are undrafted thus
far...potential Cavs options... |
| MYoung23 |
Tolbert
works for ESPN and could have watched Howard play on tape but he
said he has never seen Howard play |
| Paul Clayton |
that's
just lazy |
| Korrupt |
for
serious |
| MYoung23 |
How can
analyze the draft and don't watch the top pick? |
| WatchdogXC |
any
potential undrafted guys that could help us? |
| Korrupt |
Four
picks left, and Rice and Stepp are undrafted thus far. I think both
could be interesting options for the Cavs. |
| WatchdogXC |
Myoung23,
were you surprised Orlando took Howard? |
| Sarcastic1 |
Tolbert
is terrible. the ONLY thing he does is ask some questions that a fan
would ask and an analyst won't...and that's only once in awhile |
| MYoung23 |
Anybody
know what Toronto was thinking? |
| CBBI |
Toronto
helped us out a TON |
| WatchdogXC |
I have
no idea what Toronto was thinking |
| WatchdogXC |
we
didn't even know who it was when they said it |
| Korrupt |
They
were thinking they needed a big man, and they got one... |
| Sarcastic1 |
I
still
cannot believe Toronto did that |
| Korrupt |
question
pick as it was... |
| MYoung23 |
Araujo
can either be Brad Miller or Vitally Poapenko |
| CBBI |
how
about Boston? Jefferson, West, Allen |
| CBBI |
that's
pretty lousy to me |
| MYoung23 |
Where is
West and Allen going to be play? |
| CBBI |
exactly |
| MYoung23 |
Boston
is 2 deep at PG and SG |
| Korrupt |
West is
allegedly going to be a PG, and Allen is an undersized SG...I guess
they're going to make some moves... |
| WatchdogXC |
I stand
by my prediction that Swift will be the bust of this draft |
| ssn774 |
are the
Cavs one of the big winners in this year's draft? |
| SpexZZ |
sure
they are, best shooter at 10 |
| Sarcastic1 |
we're as
big a winner as there is, with the exception of Orlando and maybe
someone I'm forgetting |
| CBBI |
Orlando
was a winner |
| Korrupt |
I'm not
liking Josh Smith in this draft...too much athlete, not enough
basketball player IMO. |
| CBBI |
Utah was
a winner |
| go123 |
Chicago
looks good |
| MYoung23 |
I
thought Utah did well |
| CBBI |
Snyder
at 16 was a steal |
| SpexZZ |
we got 2
first rounders this year |
| Paul Clayton |
Orlando
and Utah did very well |
| CBBI |
Chicago
was a winner obviously |
| Sarcastic1 |
Utah
I forgot about |
| WatchdogXC |
I
wouldn't have minded Snyder at 10 |
| WatchdogXC |
so 16
was a steal |
| SpexZZ |
so did
the bulls |
| CBBI |
Bulls
had two top 10 picks though |
| Sarcastic1 |
and
Chicago was good as well...too much listening to music, not enough
thinking about who was drafted |
| CBBI |
tough to
be a loser with that |
| SpexZZ |
and they
did well |
| MYoung23 |
The
Bulls did well if they can defend in the backcourt |
| WatchdogXC |
they
have enough PGs |
| SpexZZ |
Kirk
will b a good backup |
| ssn774 |
is
Jackson in good shape or diop shape? |
| MYoung23 |
Snyder
might start eventually in Utah |
| MYoung23 |
Jackson
is in shape |
| WatchdogXC |
he
should be in great shape |
| ssn774 |
good |
| WatchdogXC |
he
worked out great everywhere he went |
| WatchdogXC |
shot up
the most |
| Paul Clayton |
Gordon
and Deng...not bad...what is up w/ that Suns trade? |
| CBBI |
Suns are
banking on Chicago being terrible |
| MYoung23 |
The Suns
wanted cap room |
| CBBI |
they got
it too |
| Sarcastic1 |
the only
thing I question about Gordon is the bulls already have used 4 picks
since 1999 on PG's. I know Williams got in that accident, but still |
| WatchdogXC |
who are
they going to sign with that cap room? |
| Paul Clayton |
yeah,
but they just gave away Deng and for who? |
| WatchdogXC |
sounds
like Kobe is staying in LA |
| CBBI |
they
paid a price to get rid of J. White |
| Paul Clayton |
do they
have a real shot at Kobe |
| MYoung23 |
They
will go after Bryant and if not him Nash and Okur |
| WatchdogXC |
I don't
see Kobe leaving LA now |
| WatchdogXC |
it is
his team if they trade Shaq |
| ssn774 |
what
are the Washington wizards thinking? |
| WatchdogXC |
there is
a reason they are terrible |
| MYoung23 |
Not at
all |
| CBBI |
Washington
made a solid move in my opinion |
| MYoung23 |
Chad
Ford said around 7am that Orlando would take Howard |
| Sarcastic1 |
the wiz
wanted a veteran...and I can't argue with the logic...I just
question the execution a little |
| CBBI |
got rid
of Stack and Laette who are both terrible |
| Sarcastic1 |
the wiz
did get better...I just don't like Jamison's contract |
| SpexZZ |
Question....is
Luke a Silas guy? |
| CBBI |
plus
they got Ramos in the 2nd round I think |
| MYoung23 |
I guess
so. Silas sounded excited on the radio |
| MYoung23 |
Kapono
was a Silas guy |
| ssn774 |
so
Jackson is coach able |
| WatchdogXC |
what did
Silas say? |
| Paul Clayton |
I think
Jackson is a response to Kapono and a major need |
| MYoung23 |
Silas
said he liked his athleticism, his shooting, versatility,
competitive |
| MYoung23 |
Jackson
told him ""Coach, I can play"" |
| MYoung23 |
Silas
told him LeBron was going to kick his ass and Jackson replied
""bring it on"" |
| WatchdogXC |
haha |
| WatchdogXC |
do you
think he will start within the first month? |
| Sarcastic1 |
,
I love that attitude |
| MYoung23 |
Silas
said he doesn't expect Jackson to start right away but they expect
him to |
| ssn774 |
will
Jackson be introduced in Cleveland tomorrow? |
| MYoung23 |
probably |
| xxlj23xx |
is there
anyone that slipped undrafted that would be worth it to look at? |
| WatchdogXC |
M, who
do you think we will target as free agents, undrafted, and NBA
players |
| Sarcastic1 |
rice
went undrafted...he's wroth a look |
| MYoung23 |
Jamie
Lloreda is one guy |
| xxlj23xx |
What
about Marcus Moore? |
| MYoung23 |
I'll
pass on Moore |
| MYoung23 |
Id bring
in Rice before Moore |
| MYoung23 |
Jackie
Butler |
| Paul Clayton |
I like
Butler more than Lloreda |
| SpexZZ |
19
seniors in the second round |
| WatchdogXC |
will we
pick up another pg and big man? |
| go123 |
My NBA
dream is over |
| MYoung23 |
Hmm Mike
James, Brevin Knight |
| MYoung23 |
I expect
Wagner to be traded now |
| go123 |
to whom? |
| SpexZZ |
waggs
will be a part of the Cavs |
| Paul Clayton |
yep...I
said Aug 1...sound right to MYoung |
| WatchdogXC |
yeah,
nowhere to play him unless he really develops PG skills all of a
sudden |
| MYoung23 |
I
don't
know yet there is no room for Wagner anymore |
| CBBI |
Mike
James would a solid guy to bring in on the cheap |
| Sarcastic1 |
I
wouldn't mind brevin knight coming back for the right price |
| WatchdogXC |
I'd
rather get someone like Alston |
| xxlj23xx |
Couldn't
we bring in Rice and Moore? |
| MYoung23 |
I like
Alston and Damon Jones |
| go123 |
The
offer I heard before was 10 (Jackson), Wagner and Ollie for
Harrington and 29 (Harrison?) |
| MYoung23 |
I know
the Cavaliers like Earl Watson in Memphis |
| WatchdogXC |
is he a
FA? |
| WatchdogXC |
or
trade? |
| MYoung23 |
Paxson
sounded like there would be no trade |
| go123 |
I'd give
Wagner for Watson. |
| MYoung23 |
they
would trade for Watson |
| xxlj23xx |
How do
we get guys to play on our summer league team? |
| xxlj23xx |
Don't
all the UFA's try and get signed tonight? |
| go123 |
Jackson
and Sasha seem way to redundant to me |
| xxlj23xx |
Do UFA's
get signed tonight? |
| MYoung23 |
UFAs can
sign July 15th I believe |
| WatchdogXC |
they
need a PG that can push it like McInnis coming off the bench |
| xxlj23xx |
Will we
know tomorrow? I hope we get at least Rice or Moore on our Summer
League team. |
| MYoung23 |
They
will ask guys to be on the summer team but they wont be signed |
| WatchdogXC |
Dallas
and Boston are reportedly trying to get Swift from Seattle |
| WatchdogXC |
why?
haha |
| ssn774 |
why the
infatuation with swift? |
| CBBI |
Boston
really wanted him |
| WatchdogXC |
he is
going to be horrible |
| CBBI |
they
promised him at 15 |
| WatchdogXC |
he
didn't even work out for any team |
| MYoung23 |
Swift
has game |
| WatchdogXC |
you
think? |
| CBBI |
Swift
has good footwork |
| Sarcastic1 |
supposedly
he has a nice offensive array of moves |
| WatchdogXC |
he looks
too skinny |
| WatchdogXC |
and
played against smaller players |
| MYoung23 |
he's
skilled and doesn't back down |
| Sarcastic1 |
he needs
bulk and to learn defense |
| CBBI |
he needs
to put on weight |
| xxlj23xx |
MYoung,
Will you guys find out from your sources who the Cavs will target? |
| MYoung23 |
yeah, I
think so. One of us will get some info |
| MYoung23 |
You can
forget about Turkoglu and Jackson now |
| go123 |
As long
as we're throwing out PG names, I want Damon Jones |
| CBBI |
no need
for a shooting wingplayer |
| WatchdogXC |
any big
guys to go after? |
| WatchdogXC |
I'd like
to have something better than Battie and Diop off the bench |
| CBBI |
MYoung,
how about Brian Skinner returning? |
| xxlj23xx |
I want
Rafer Alston |
| CBBI |
I
think
Skinner would be a solid signing |
| WatchdogXC |
my ideal
signing would be Alston and Skinner |
| MYoung23 |
I would
take a look at Antonio McDyess |
| WatchdogXC |
that's
right |
| WatchdogXC |
how much
would he cost? |
| CBBI |
McDyess
is pretty much a lock to go to Houston I think |
| MYoung23 |
if he is
healthy |
| CBBI |
that's
where he wants to go |
| MYoung23 |
If
someone thinks McDyess can start he will likely get the MLE |
| WatchdogXC |
how
healthy is he? |
| xxlj23xx |
Damn,
I wish we could have got Drejer or Ariza |
| go123 |
Do you
think we'd give it? |
| WatchdogXC |
the
thing that scares me is Battie's knees and Diop playing |
| MYoung23 |
The
Cavaliers keep saying they like their big men though |
| xxlj23xx |
I think
1 of the 2 will eventually contribute a few years |
| ssn774 |
how
about john Edwards? |
| ssn774 |
from
Kent state |
| WatchdogXC |
I hear
he may go to Europe |
| xxlj23xx |
for
summer league |
| ssn774 |
right -
summer league invite |
| xxlj23xx |
Edwards,
rice, and moore |
| xxlj23xx |
and pg
get undrafted? |
| MYoung23 |
I doubt
if they would give all their MLE to McDyess unless Silas really
pushed it |
| Paul Clayton |
I don't
think that is something Silas would push at |
| MYoung23 |
They may
package Wagner for a big man |
| WatchdogXC |
what
kind of big guy could Wagner get us? |
| MYoung23 |
Tolbert
is pointless |
| go123 |
I'll
consider Wagner for Ely |
| CBBI |
Wagner
for Ely |
| MYoung23 |
Ely has
been in mothballs for 2 years |
| Paul Clayton |
we could
take a big ending contract w/ Battie, Ollie and Wags and get good
return |
| MYoung23 |
If you
package him with Ollie probably a Lorenzen Wright-Tony Battie type |
| Paul Clayton |
I keep
hearing that they can move Ollie and not get screwed...do you see
how? |
| MYoung23 |
The
Clippers might do that |
| WatchdogXC |
what
about a guy like Stromile Swift? |
| CBBI |
I
wish
they would have a brain freeze and do Wagner for Wilcox |
| Paul Clayton |
I'll
keep Wags if Eli is the best we could get |
| MYoung23 |
You'd
have to take a back a larger contract if you trade Ollie |
| CBBI |
Wagner
and Ollie combing is a little over 5 mil |
| MYoung23 |
If he
can play you don't mind |
| CBBI |
that
could net a big |
| Paul Clayton |
well
yeah, if you add in Wags, I think you get a good return |
| MYoung23 |
Etan
Thomas is a RFA |
| go123 |
I'd love
Etan Thomas, but a lot of teams want him. |
| WatchdogXC |
what
teams do you think would be interested in Wagner? |
| MYoung23 |
Clippers,
New Jersey |
| MYoung23 |
Jersey
has interest for sure |
| WatchdogXC |
they had
to get something |
| CBBI |
who
could we get for Wagner from Jersey |
| CBBI |
im not a
big Kittles fan at all |
| WatchdogXC |
me
neither |
| xxlj23xx |
Kittles
that's it |
| WatchdogXC |
Aaron
Williams? |
| Guest105 |
Scalabrine? |
| Paul Clayton |
Kittles
wouldn't be bad...but I don't think that deal will happen |
| xxlj23xx |
I'd
keep Wagner |
| xxlj23xx |
and take
my chances |
| Paul Clayton |
Wags
will end up down south |
| WatchdogXC |
isn't
Kittles an ending contract? |
| xxlj23xx |
kittles
for Wagner and Ewill |
| CBBI |
down
south.... |
| xxlj23xx |
10 mill |
| WatchdogXC |
I'd
trade Wagner and Ollie for him |
| go123 |
Lorenzen
Wright was a pretty good idea there. |
| CBBI |
Miami? |
| WatchdogXC |
to get
the cap room |
| Paul Clayton |
Orlando,
Miami, Charlotte |
| Paul Clayton |
just a
hunch from interested teams |
| WatchdogXC |
what
about Wagner for Drew Gooden? |
| Paul Clayton |
in a
heart beat |
| Paul Clayton |
but
wouldn't happen |
| WatchdogXC |
don't
think they'd do it though |
| Paul Clayton |
they
like Gooden |
| xxlj23xx |
Wagner
and Diop for Caron wouldn't be bad |
| go123 |
Any way
we could skim Cato off that McGrady deal? |
| MYoung23 |
I
don't know if Jersey has anything of interest to Cleveland anymore |
| Paul Clayton |
I agree
MYoung..I just don't see who fits |
| MYoung23 |
Planinic |
| WatchdogXC |
lets
figure out what teams would be interested in Wagner, and then see
who we could realistically get that would help |
| MYoung23 |
I think
the Cavaliers are done with swingmen |
| Paul Clayton |
I'm
thinking PG and then SF, PF |
| xxlj23xx |
if you
moved wags you could take back Caron |
| CBBI |
PG and
PF are the two spots im thinking |
| xxlj23xx |
We
should go for Stromile swift and rafer |