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 MYoung Draft Chat
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MYoung and CavsWatch friends


On the night of the draft MYoung paid a visit to the chat room after returning from Gund Arena to talk about the draft. What we got was some good discussion.


MYoung23  hey I just got home 
Paul Clayton  hey MYoung
ssn774  how was the Gund?
MYoung23  pretty subdued
Korrupt  Reactions?
Sarcastic1  did the fans cheer the pick?
SpexZZ  what's the Luke hype?
MYoung23  not a whole lot of buzz
MYoung23  people at the Gund wanted Nelson
CBBI  Nelson?
SpexZZ  o well, Luke will be competing for ROY
Sarcastic1  nelson with the 10, or nelson in a trade?
ssn774  were there boos?
MYoung23  no
MYoung23  not a lot of reaction
SpexZZ  well , he's not LeBron
WatchdogXC  I would have liked to have trade for Nelson later on
MYoung23  most wanted Nelson, some Snyder, some Jackson
WatchdogXC  Jackson is a safe pick in my mind
SpexZZ  we all wanted more, but like Luke
WatchdogXC  he will hit open shots
Korrupt  Yeah, the Cavs needed to deal with Denver and get Nelson...
MYoung23  The ESPN coverage was beyond terrible
WatchdogXC  you didn't like hearing from Vitale, 
CBBI  Vitale was insane tonight
WatchdogXC  I hope we don't have a 1st rounder next year
MYoung23  Why was Tolbert and Smith there?
CBBI  he wouldn't stop bitching
Paul Clayton  Tolbert is an ass
Korrupt  five picks left...guys like Rice and Stepp are undrafted thus far...potential Cavs options...
MYoung23  Tolbert works for ESPN and could have watched Howard play on tape but he said he has never seen Howard play
Paul Clayton  that's just lazy
Korrupt  for serious
MYoung23  How can analyze the draft and don't watch the top pick?
WatchdogXC  any potential undrafted guys that could help us?
Korrupt  Four picks left, and Rice and Stepp are undrafted thus far. I think both could be interesting options for the Cavs.
WatchdogXC  Myoung23, were you surprised Orlando took Howard?
Sarcastic1  Tolbert is terrible. the ONLY thing he does is ask some questions that a fan would ask and an analyst won't...and that's only once in awhile
MYoung23  Anybody know what Toronto was thinking?
CBBI  Toronto helped us out a TON
WatchdogXC  I have no idea what Toronto was thinking
WatchdogXC  we didn't even know who it was when they said it
Korrupt  They were thinking they needed a big man, and they got one...
Sarcastic1  I still cannot believe Toronto did that
Korrupt  question pick as it was...
MYoung23  Araujo can either be Brad Miller or Vitally Poapenko
CBBI  how about Boston? Jefferson, West, Allen
CBBI  that's pretty lousy to me
MYoung23  Where is West and Allen going to be play?
CBBI  exactly
MYoung23  Boston is 2 deep at PG and SG
Korrupt  West is allegedly going to be a PG, and Allen is an undersized SG...I guess they're going to make some moves...
WatchdogXC  I stand by my prediction that Swift will be the bust of this draft
ssn774  are the Cavs one of the big winners in this year's draft?
SpexZZ  sure they are, best shooter at 10
Sarcastic1  we're as big a winner as there is, with the exception of Orlando and maybe someone I'm forgetting
CBBI  Orlando was a winner
Korrupt  I'm not liking Josh Smith in this draft...too much athlete, not enough basketball player IMO.
CBBI  Utah was a winner
go123  Chicago looks good
MYoung23  I thought Utah did well
CBBI  Snyder at 16 was a steal
SpexZZ  we got 2 first rounders this year
Paul Clayton  Orlando and Utah did very well
CBBI  Chicago was a winner obviously
Sarcastic1  Utah I forgot about
WatchdogXC  I wouldn't have minded Snyder at 10
WatchdogXC  so 16 was a steal
SpexZZ  so did the bulls
CBBI  Bulls had two top 10 picks though
Sarcastic1  and Chicago was good as well...too much listening to music, not enough thinking about who was drafted
CBBI  tough to be a loser with that
SpexZZ  and they did well
MYoung23  The Bulls did well if they can defend in the backcourt
WatchdogXC  they have enough PGs
SpexZZ  Kirk will b a good backup
ssn774  is Jackson in good shape or diop shape?
MYoung23  Snyder might start eventually in Utah
MYoung23  Jackson is in shape
WatchdogXC  he should be in great shape
ssn774  good
WatchdogXC  he worked out great everywhere he went
WatchdogXC  shot up the most
Paul Clayton  Gordon and Deng...not bad...what is up w/ that Suns trade?
CBBI  Suns are banking on Chicago being terrible
MYoung23  The Suns wanted cap room
CBBI  they got it too
Sarcastic1  the only thing I question about Gordon is the bulls already have used 4 picks since 1999 on PG's. I know Williams got in that accident, but still
WatchdogXC  who are they going to sign with that cap room?
Paul Clayton  yeah, but they just gave away Deng and for who?
WatchdogXC  sounds like Kobe is staying in LA
CBBI  they paid a price to get rid of J. White
Paul Clayton  do they have a real shot at Kobe
MYoung23  They will go after Bryant and if not him Nash and Okur
WatchdogXC  I don't see Kobe leaving LA now
WatchdogXC  it is his team if they trade Shaq
ssn774  what are the Washington wizards thinking?
WatchdogXC  there is a reason they are terrible
MYoung23  Not at all
CBBI  Washington made a solid move in my opinion
MYoung23  Chad Ford said around 7am that Orlando would take Howard
Sarcastic1  the wiz wanted a veteran...and I can't argue with the logic...I just question the execution a little
CBBI  got rid of Stack and Laette who are both terrible
Sarcastic1  the wiz did get better...I just don't like Jamison's contract
SpexZZ  Question....is Luke a Silas guy?
CBBI  plus they got Ramos in the 2nd round I think
MYoung23  I guess so. Silas sounded excited on the radio
MYoung23  Kapono was a Silas guy
ssn774  so Jackson is coach able
WatchdogXC  what did Silas say?
Paul Clayton  I think Jackson is a response to Kapono and a major need
MYoung23  Silas said he liked his athleticism, his shooting, versatility, competitive
MYoung23  Jackson told him ""Coach, I can play""
MYoung23  Silas told him LeBron was going to kick his ass and Jackson replied ""bring it on""
WatchdogXC  haha
WatchdogXC  do you think he will start within the first month?
Sarcastic1  , I love that attitude
MYoung23  Silas said he doesn't expect Jackson to start right away but they expect him to
ssn774  will Jackson be introduced in Cleveland tomorrow?
MYoung23  probably
xxlj23xx  is there anyone that slipped undrafted that would be worth it to look at?
WatchdogXC  M, who do you think we will target as free agents, undrafted, and NBA players
Sarcastic1  rice went undrafted...he's wroth a look
MYoung23  Jamie Lloreda is one guy
xxlj23xx  What about Marcus Moore?
MYoung23  I'll pass on Moore
MYoung23  Id bring in Rice before Moore
MYoung23  Jackie Butler
Paul Clayton  I like Butler more than Lloreda
SpexZZ  19 seniors in the second round
WatchdogXC  will we pick up another pg and big man?
go123  My NBA dream is over
MYoung23  Hmm Mike James, Brevin Knight
MYoung23  I expect Wagner to be traded now
go123  to whom?
SpexZZ  waggs will be a part of the Cavs
Paul Clayton  yep...I said Aug 1...sound right to MYoung
WatchdogXC  yeah, nowhere to play him unless he really develops PG skills all of a sudden
MYoung23  I don't know yet there is no room for Wagner anymore
CBBI  Mike James would a solid guy to bring in on the cheap
Sarcastic1  I wouldn't mind brevin knight coming back for the right price
WatchdogXC  I'd rather get someone like Alston
xxlj23xx  Couldn't we bring in Rice and Moore?
MYoung23  I like Alston and Damon Jones
go123  The offer I heard before was 10 (Jackson), Wagner and Ollie for Harrington and 29 (Harrison?)
MYoung23  I know the Cavaliers like Earl Watson in Memphis
WatchdogXC  is he a FA?
WatchdogXC  or trade?
MYoung23  Paxson sounded like there would be no trade
go123  I'd give Wagner for Watson.
MYoung23  they would trade for Watson
xxlj23xx  How do we get guys to play on our summer league team?
xxlj23xx  Don't all the UFA's try and get signed tonight?
go123  Jackson and Sasha seem way to redundant to me
xxlj23xx  Do UFA's get signed tonight?
MYoung23  UFAs can sign July 15th I believe
WatchdogXC  they need a PG that can push it like McInnis coming off the bench
xxlj23xx  Will we know tomorrow? I hope we get at least Rice or Moore on our Summer League team.
MYoung23  They will ask guys to be on the summer team but they wont be signed
WatchdogXC  Dallas and Boston are reportedly trying to get Swift from Seattle
WatchdogXC  why? haha
ssn774  why the infatuation with swift?
CBBI  Boston really wanted him
WatchdogXC  he is going to be horrible
CBBI  they promised him at 15
WatchdogXC  he didn't even work out for any team
MYoung23  Swift has game
WatchdogXC  you think?
CBBI  Swift has good footwork
Sarcastic1  supposedly he has a nice offensive array of moves
WatchdogXC  he looks too skinny
WatchdogXC  and played against smaller players
MYoung23  he's skilled and doesn't back down
Sarcastic1  he needs bulk and to learn defense
CBBI  he needs to put on weight
xxlj23xx  MYoung, Will you guys find out from your sources who the Cavs will target?
MYoung23  yeah, I think so. One of us will get some info
MYoung23  You can forget about Turkoglu and Jackson now
go123  As long as we're throwing out PG names, I want Damon Jones
CBBI  no need for a shooting wingplayer
WatchdogXC  any big guys to go after?
WatchdogXC  I'd like to have something better than Battie and Diop off the bench
CBBI  MYoung, how about Brian Skinner returning?
xxlj23xx  I want Rafer Alston
CBBI  I think Skinner would be a solid signing
WatchdogXC  my ideal signing would be Alston and Skinner
MYoung23  I would take a look at Antonio McDyess
WatchdogXC  that's right
WatchdogXC  how much would he cost?
CBBI  McDyess is pretty much a lock to go to Houston I think
MYoung23  if he is healthy
CBBI  that's where he wants to go
MYoung23  If someone thinks McDyess can start he will likely get the MLE
WatchdogXC  how healthy is he?
xxlj23xx  Damn, I wish we could have got Drejer or Ariza
go123  Do you think we'd give it?
WatchdogXC  the thing that scares me is Battie's knees and Diop playing
MYoung23  The Cavaliers keep saying they like their big men though
xxlj23xx  I think 1 of the 2 will eventually contribute a few years
ssn774  how about john Edwards?
ssn774  from Kent state
WatchdogXC  I hear he may go to Europe
xxlj23xx  for summer league
ssn774  right - summer league invite
xxlj23xx  Edwards, rice, and moore
xxlj23xx  and pg get undrafted?
MYoung23  I doubt if they would give all their MLE to McDyess unless Silas really pushed it
Paul Clayton  I don't think that is something Silas would push at
MYoung23  They may package Wagner for a big man
WatchdogXC  what kind of big guy could Wagner get us?
MYoung23  Tolbert is pointless
go123  I'll consider Wagner for Ely
CBBI  Wagner for Ely
MYoung23  Ely has been in mothballs for 2 years
Paul Clayton  we could take a big ending contract w/ Battie, Ollie and Wags and get good return
MYoung23  If you package him with Ollie probably a Lorenzen Wright-Tony Battie type
Paul Clayton  I keep hearing that they can move Ollie and not get screwed...do you see how?
MYoung23  The Clippers might do that
WatchdogXC  what about a guy like Stromile Swift?
CBBI  I wish they would have a brain freeze and do Wagner for Wilcox
Paul Clayton  I'll keep Wags if Eli is the best we could get
MYoung23  You'd have to take a back a larger contract if you trade Ollie
CBBI  Wagner and Ollie combing is a little over 5 mil
MYoung23  If he can play you don't mind
CBBI  that could net a big
Paul Clayton  well yeah, if you add in Wags, I think you get a good return
MYoung23  Etan Thomas is a RFA
go123  I'd love Etan Thomas, but a lot of teams want him.
WatchdogXC  what teams do you think would be interested in Wagner?
MYoung23  Clippers, New Jersey
MYoung23  Jersey has interest for sure
WatchdogXC  they had to get something
CBBI  who could we get for Wagner from Jersey
CBBI  im not a big Kittles fan at all
WatchdogXC  me neither
xxlj23xx  Kittles that's it
WatchdogXC  Aaron Williams?
Guest105  Scalabrine?
Paul Clayton  Kittles wouldn't be bad...but I don't think that deal will happen
xxlj23xx  I'd keep Wagner
xxlj23xx  and take my chances
Paul Clayton  Wags will end up down south
WatchdogXC  isn't Kittles an ending contract?
xxlj23xx  kittles for Wagner and Ewill
CBBI  down south....
xxlj23xx  10 mill
WatchdogXC  I'd trade Wagner and Ollie for him
go123  Lorenzen Wright was a pretty good idea there.
CBBI  Miami?
WatchdogXC  to get the cap room
Paul Clayton  Orlando, Miami, Charlotte
Paul Clayton  just a hunch from interested teams
WatchdogXC  what about Wagner for Drew Gooden?
Paul Clayton  in a heart beat
Paul Clayton  but wouldn't happen
WatchdogXC  don't think they'd do it though
Paul Clayton  they like Gooden
xxlj23xx  Wagner and Diop for Caron wouldn't be bad
go123  Any way we could skim Cato off that McGrady deal?
MYoung23  I don't know if Jersey has anything of interest to Cleveland anymore
Paul Clayton  I agree MYoung..I just don't see who fits
MYoung23  Planinic
WatchdogXC  lets figure out what teams would be interested in Wagner, and then see who we could realistically get that would help
MYoung23  I think the Cavaliers are done with swingmen
Paul Clayton  I'm thinking PG and then SF, PF
xxlj23xx  if you moved wags you could take back Caron
CBBI  PG and PF are the two spots im thinking
xxlj23xx  We should go for Stromile swift and rafer